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Indeed but with a global market. Don't take me seriously with this Ron. The British are a confused nation when it comes to metric and imperial, we buy milk and petrol in litres but consider distance/speed in miles except for short distances where we use centimetres . We use Kg for weights except for babies who are still measured in Pounds and ounces To complex for me, I and almost everyone else is not entirely sure if the UK is/will be part of the EU

40 Degrees! Wow. Oh, you mean Fahrenheit

No memory anyone talking about this, is it new?

Sounds like it is time for another great A&J experiment

A&J, do you mean using a heat gun before or after the dressing is applied?

Thanks Ron for the explanation.

Looking forward to your views. Where did you buy it from, I had a look at the European distributor but they do not list the BRS. The last time I looked for it over here it was impressiveness expensive

Ron, sorry for dragging up an old quote. I am curious about the film left behind on wood. One of the things I like about OPC is how easy it is to remove, what is it about wood where something is left behind?

Excellent, thank you.

Any downsides to mixing OID and OCW? Car looks great.

Next time I get some PC I will give it a quick try and see what happens. Might be a while as I am tempted by a German APC for my next purchase

Yvan, nice idea about mixing the two products. On a slightly different area, could I dilute Power Clean with ONR (256:1) to give some more lubrication?

One of the nice things about ONR is just the sheer versatility of the product. Great on the exterior but also great on mild interior dirt, can be used by hand, in a steamer or extraction tool. For example on leather, use with a short nap MF cloth, the kind of thing for remove polish and it will gently remove most dirt from leather. Sometimes something stronger is required but ONR can remove a lot of dirt on its own.

Completely agree with Ron, a toothbrush is a very useful tool on pads and more generally on interiors

It won't make a significant difference if you clean the pad for the second panel with ONR. The Hyper Polish can be sprayed onto a dry pad and will work well. I think the advantage of using a pad which has been cleaned with ONR is firstly, you are starting with a very clean pad which is always a good idea. Secondly, my guess is the ONR is helping to spread the polish over the pad and maybe helps with lubrication. I have used Hyper Polish with dry and ONR dampened pads, the difference is not night and day, using ONR makes it slightly nicer to work with. One thing I have tried is to wash the pad in a bucket of ONR and then spin the pad on the polisher at the top of the bucket. Care is needed here as water and electricity can create some very unpleasant outcomes. The ONR bucket method is probably not as good as a fancy pad washer but is much cheaper.

The Zaino QD is great in the house and on the car however, ONR works out to be vastly cheaper and requires less effort but the Zaino has a nicer smell.

Brad, just to echo the above points, use whatever products make you comfortable. I like ONR as it is quicker and easier than a traditional shampoo and I only use one bucket (no grit guard) but if the Car Shampoo does everything you want from a shampoo then keep on using it. Pre washing with ONR could also help. ONR is also a great light interior cleaner and I also use it for dusting duties in our home. To quote Beau from many many years ago on Autopia, "...detailing is meant to be enjoyable" so just use whatever products you fancy

"The polymers in ONR can be painted over and will cause no issue". https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101-a/48109-could-you-use-onr-used-paint-prep.html

I use a cheap noodle mitt with ONR. Not tried the fancy sponges i.e. BRS, as there are very very expensive by the time they reach the UK. I have also used a MF cloth which worked well but you need a lot of them. I suspect almost any washing material would do a good job.

I would be happy to use either product. If I was forced to use one by hand then maybe I would choose Poliseal which I think was recently tweaked. Spot pads are perfect for lips and dips plus you can lower the speed of a polisher in these areas to reduce the risks. Nothing wrong with working by hand as long as your expectations are not for perfection

I may be wrong but I think you can use the car in the rain after a few hours

My favourite glass cleaner is made by a British company but the bottle design is poor. It is common for the contents to 'burp' after it has been applied to a cloth. This can be a tad frustrating, it is not a huge amount of product but I prefer the contents of a bottle to stay put after using them.

A&J, as I understand it, the polymers in ONR can be painted over. However, I fully agree with you on the whole polymers leaving protection or not. There is confusing messages about it. This is not rare in smaller organisations where communications are often informal whereas in a large organisation the communications will tend to be much more considered but there are many other disadvantages to being a large organisation. Brad, it took me a while to get used to the idea that ONR would clean and not damage my paint. I would take some reassurance that ONR has been out for over a decade and the forums are not full of people saying their paint is damaged. I have used the Car Wash (I would call it OCW but this is the same acronym as the wax, OPT need to sort out their naming conventions ) and it is a nice, gentle product and for those who want the traditional approach to washing then the Car Wash is a great product to own. Might be worth considering using the traditional shampoo and alternating with ONR when the paint is not very dirty or just use ONR for the interior or a pre treatment. I have not tried this with the Car Wash but I have added some ONR to a traditional shampoo to boost lubrication and soften the water. It does work very well but kills most of the suds, maybe it would be worth mixing ONR with the Car Shampoo for when your in the mood for experimentation

I have had a few problems with spray heads, Hyper polish (twice) and OPP. Hyper polish heads were quickly replaced by the retailer and I used a CarPro head for the Protectant Plus, which I thought did a better job. Once lost half a bottle of Car Pro Eraser in the boot of my car. That took a while to clean and remove the smell. The lesson I learnt from Eraser is to give the top a quick tighten to make sure the shipping has not loosened it

https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101-a/32605-opinions-using-apc-clean-leather-5.html#post419317 Post number 43. As an aside, this is a great thread on leather cleaning