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[Chris Thomas]

And if so whats the proper procedure? Also, at QD strength can I go over the exterior glass or just surfaces?
TIA,

[Chris Thomas]

bump please

[Anthony Orosco]

Yes, ONR can be used for an interior and exterior glass cleaner. It can be used at the regular QD mix.....a bit stronger if you're doing nasty windows and a bit less if doing more regular upkeep type cars.

If you notice streaks and smears then you need to cut it back with water.

I'll give you my secret to crystal clear glass.....I use 1 wet microfiber glass towel, go over the glass with this really well then take a silicone squeegee and squeegee the excess water off and then buff the glass with a non-linting microfiber towel (I use a thick waffle weave towel) and you should be left with streak free glass. You can use this method for interior glass also and it will also remove VOC gassing from glass. It may take a bit getting used to but once you get the hang of it you'll love the results. Now don't tell anyone my secret!!

Anthony

[Paul B]

 Anthony Orosco, on Jan 10 2008, 08:10 PM, said:

I'll give you my secret to crystal clear glass.....I use 1 wet microfiber glass towel, go over the glass with this really well then take a silicone squeegee and squeegee the excess water off and then buff the glass with a non-linting microfiber towel (I use a thick waffle weave towel) and you should be left with streak free glass. You can use this method for interior glass also and it will also remove VOC gassing from glass. It may take a bit getting used to but once you get the hang of it you'll love the results. Now don't tell anyone my secret!!

Anthony

Thanks for the tip!

[Brent]

 Anthony Orosco, on Jan 10 2008, 08:10 PM, said:

Yes, ONR can be used for an interior and exterior glass cleaner. It can be used at the regular QD mix.....a bit stronger if you're doing nasty windows and a bit less if doing more regular upkeep type cars.

If you notice streaks and smears then you need to cut it back with water.

I'll give you my secret to crystal clear glass.....I use 1 wet microfiber glass towel, go over the glass with this really well then take a silicone squeegee and squeegee the excess water off and then buff the glass with a non-linting microfiber towel (I use a thick waffle weave towel) and you should be left with streak free glass. You can use this method for interior glass also and it will also remove VOC gassing from glass. It may take a bit getting used to but once you get the hang of it you'll love the results. Now don't tell anyone my secret!!

Anthony

Anthony, have you ever tried putting an ounce of denatured alcohol (I assume that is the same as ISA) in some QD mix ONR for glass cleaning? Scottwax has mentioned several times on other boards that such a combo makes a wonderful (and easy) glass cleaner. Normally I am hesitant to start mixing up products with other chemicals w/o the manufacturer agreeing that such a mixture is safe but I will rely on Scott's experience in this case.

[Chris Thomas]

Anthony, have you ever tried putting an ounce of denatured alcohol (I assume that is the same as ISA) in some QD mix ONR for glass cleaning? Scottwax has mentioned several times on other boards that such a combo makes a wonderful (and easy) glass cleaner. Normally I am hesitant to start mixing up products with other chemicals w/o the manufacturer agreeing that such a mixture is safe but I will rely on Scott's experience in this case.
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get the specifics from Scot if you know him and I'll try it. I sent him a message once and he never replied to me.

[Anthony Orosco]

Bad idea.....denatured alcohol can be bad for your health.


Reactivity Alerts

* Highly Flammable

Air & Water Reactions

Highly flammable. Water soluble.

Fire Hazard
HIGHLY FLAMMABLE: Will be easily ignited by heat, sparks or flames. Vapors may form explosive mixtures with air. Vapors may travel to source of ignition and flash back. Most vapors are heavier than air. They will spread along ground and collect in low or confined areas (sewers, basements, tanks). Vapor explosion and poison hazard indoors, outdoors or in sewers. Those substances designated with a "P" may polymerize explosively when heated or involved in a fire. Runoff to sewer may create fire or explosion hazard. Containers may explode when heated. Many liquids are lighter than water. (DOT, 2000)
Health Hazard

TOXIC; may be fatal if inhaled, ingested or absorbed through skin. Inhalation or contact with some of these materials will irritate or burn skin and eyes. Fire will produce irritating, corrosive and/or toxic gases. Vapors may cause dizziness or suffocation. Runoff from fire control or dilution water may cause pollution. (DOT, 2000)
Reactivity Profile

DENATURED ALCOHOL gives flammable and/or toxic gases with alkali metals, nitrides, and strong reducing agents. Reacts with oxoacids and carboxylic acids to form esters plus water. Reacts with oxidizing agents to give ethanal or acetic acid. Exhibits both weak acid and weak base behavior. May initiate the polymerization of isocyanates and epoxides. (NOAA REACTIVITY, 2007)
Belongs to reactive group(s)


I wouldn't use it myself BUT in a highly diluted solution it may be just fine.

Anthony

[Brent]

I would imagine one ounce of denatured alcohol mixed with 16 ounces of ONR QD could not cause such dangers.

[Chris Thomas]

 Anthony Orosco, on Jan 20 2008, 11:23 PM, said:

Bad idea.....denatured alcohol can be bad for your health.


Reactivity Alerts

* Highly Flammable

Air & Water Reactions

Highly flammable. Water soluble.

Fire Hazard
HIGHLY FLAMMABLE: Will be easily ignited by heat, sparks or flames. Vapors may form explosive mixtures with air. Vapors may travel to source of ignition and flash back. Most vapors are heavier than air. They will spread along ground and collect in low or confined areas (sewers, basements, tanks). Vapor explosion and poison hazard indoors, outdoors or in sewers. Those substances designated with a "P" may polymerize explosively when heated or involved in a fire. Runoff to sewer may create fire or explosion hazard. Containers may explode when heated. Many liquids are lighter than water. (DOT, 2000)
Health Hazard

TOXIC; may be fatal if inhaled, ingested or absorbed through skin. Inhalation or contact with some of these materials will irritate or burn skin and eyes. Fire will produce irritating, corrosive and/or toxic gases. Vapors may cause dizziness or suffocation. Runoff from fire control or dilution water may cause pollution. (DOT, 2000)
Reactivity Profile

DENATURED ALCOHOL gives flammable and/or toxic gases with alkali metals, nitrides, and strong reducing agents. Reacts with oxoacids and carboxylic acids to form esters plus water. Reacts with oxidizing agents to give ethanal or acetic acid. Exhibits both weak acid and weak base behavior. May initiate the polymerization of isocyanates and epoxides. (NOAA REACTIVITY, 2007)
Belongs to reactive group(s)


I wouldn't use it myself BUT in a highly diluted solution it may be just fine.




soo.... its not Enviro friendly? j/k thanks for the info Anthony, I was wanting to put somthing on the back of my card about how I use ONR that helps me conserve water and VOC compliant products, any idea on how to word that?

Anthony

[Charlies02GLS]

integritydetail, you can also mention that Optimum Products come packaged in HDPE bottles (which are one of the few widely recyclable plastics). I know for certain that ONR and OP/OC come in HDPE but unsure as to what the others are in, maybe someone else has that info...

[Chris Thomas]

thats exactly the kind of info I need. I posted a thread about POS materials for pro detailers and they may be working on it.