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#1 jdoria

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 05:45 PM

Can Someone validate the fact if the Optimum polish/compound line contains diminishing or non-diminishing abrasives?

I was looking to do a side-by-side write-up with the new M105 / M205

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 06:19 PM

I think it has both...wrap your head around that, haha!
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Posted 14 March 2009 - 06:57 AM

View Postintegritydetail, on Mar 13 2009, 07:19 PM, said:

I think it has both...wrap your head around that, haha!

Does it matter? I would just like to see a comparison.

Use the one that works best for you and ignore the marketing hype that goes along with the a new production. Diminishing, non-diminishing, agoraphobic, whatever.

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 06:29 AM

can we use OP II with the KB method (which is a hype on autopia)?

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 08:06 AM

View Postblackjz, on Mar 17 2009, 07:29 AM, said:

can we use OP II with the KB method (which is a hype on autopia)?

Here's my take on the KB method.....why? (And this has nothing against Kevin personally)

What I mean by "why?" is, from my understanding you need to work the product in (and yes this method can be used with other polishes/compounds) for a good amount of time so is it not possible that the same amount of time spent on one PC/KB method can also be done in 2 rotary steps.....in the same amount of time, perhaps less?

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 09:15 PM

I know the good doctor has metioned working with some non-diminishing abrasives but I can't say for sure if they have in fact been incorporated into the new polishes.
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Posted 26 March 2009 - 07:36 AM

wow that's a good thing to know if OPT makes non diminishing abrasive polishes :kicking[1]:

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 01:21 PM

Here's my take on the KBM, although the official paper hasn't been posted, I have learned the basics from guys that Kevin has taught. And it's the same thing-technique that the bodyshop guy I use to work for did. Let's see, plenty of polish, heavy pressure to start then lightnen up, work it till defect is gone. And this guy was using a DeWalt, wool pad and 3M EC, follow with foam and Ultrafina and you're done. Now it's M105-205 and a PC, I'll bet 3M, Menzerna, Optimum, etc would work too.

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 02:40 AM

coool.. i ll try kbm method using OP II when i got it :kicking[1]:

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 05:09 PM

KBM, ah yes it is a revival of the old days...or not so old days.

I like pad priming.
I like what I call jeweling. Start with heavy pressure, then gradually relieve pressure as I go.
I like to polish for a long time, and look through the polish as I go.
I like the flexibility of a multi-finish, multi-machine polish

I'd love to buy just one product line. Optimum is the closest I know of to the perfect product line.

ONR - 10
OCW - 10
OPS - 10
OOS - 10
OID - 10

I'm yet to try the tire products.


I'll try the polishes for certain, but I have a way to go before I finish the gallons of Menzerna and Meguiars I have.

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 09:13 PM

The polishes work great and can be used in conjunction with one another and other manufacturer products. Poli-SEal and OS are a fav combo of many detailers.

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