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[jdoria]

I used Poli-Seal after Meguiars M205 today. I applied the Poli-Seal with a PC and back LC CCS pad.



I see small clumps like this in some areas. They arent easy to remove. I tried ONR and then IPA to get them off. any ideas why this happened and how to fix in the future?

[Chris Thomas]

too much PS will clog the pad and come off onto the paint like that if worked at a high speed too long. Use less or change your pad more frequently would be my first test. I use PS after M105 frequently with no issues and I wouldn't think there would be with the M205. Heck, I use PS to take off the residue from OP and OPII all the time without wiping off in between. I just prime the pad and work it in a bit with my hand then only need about a pea size dot for each panel after that.

[jdoria]

I used high speed.

Should Poli-Seal "disappear" into the paint? I am doing that, but am not certain that is its intended application.

[dublifecrisis]

not sure if this applies to your problem but I've learned that black pads are too soft for poli-seal's buttery consistency. It just soaks into the pad too quickly. I use a white pad and it seems to work longer. It still dissapears eventually but majority of the product is being worked between the pad and paint versus the soft black pad sucking it up onto the backing plate.

[Bence]

Speed 6 on a DA should not cause concerns with OPS.

[jdoria]

White pad sounds aggressive after a 3 step polishing process, no? Or is Poli-Seal not the product for that?


Speed not an issue? Any other ideas Bence?

[Bence]

Speed on a DA is not an issue given OPS' great lubrication. I'm using it mainly with a rotary, using speeds between 1000 and 1400.

OPS is highly tunable. You can use it with a stiffer pad to rmove mild imperfections and also with a finishing/finessing pad which are functionaly nonabrasive. In this case OPS will behave as a sealant.

You can play with the dosage to see how is it performing with the given pad. Best is when it doesn't leave a trace/residue.

[Chris Thomas]

jdoria, on Mar 30 2009, 06:12 PM, said:

White pad sounds aggressive after a 3 step polishing process, no? Or is Poli-Seal not the product for that?

Poliseal is an AIO, if you did a 3 step your final should be a final polish followed by an LSP for protection. OPS is great as a one step and cleaner if thats all you re doing. It s very versatile and you CAN use if for that, but it s probably not the best selection because is does soak up into the finessing pads pretty quick. I agree with Bence that speed is not an issue...that is unless the pad has gotten so full of PS that it's gummy.

[jdoria]

So what is Optimum's recommended LSP?

Opti-seal and Optimum Car Wax?

[Chris Thomas]

jdoria, on Apr 1 2009, 11:59 AM, said:

So what is Optimum's recommended LSP?

Opti-seal and Optimum Car Wax?

OS and OCW as well as the new coating that is in the works are Optimum's LSP. Just to clarify, LSP is not included as a step in a 3 step in my opinion. The three steps are 1. Compounding and defect removal 2. Polishing 3. Finish or finess polishing...then add the protection of an LSP. If you have already done the polishing steps and are only adding PS for protection then there is no need for the high speed. Just spread it on speed 3-4 like a wax. The high speeds and pressure are for if you were trying to get the PS to do some correction as a one step.

[Anthony Orosco]

At the Concours shop we use Poli-Seal for mainly 1 steps. On some cars we may polish with Optimum Polish and then finish with Poli-Seal.

We almost always use an orbital for the Poli-Seal. It's also great for wheels, door jams, engine areas.

Anthony

[jdoria]

Thanks Anthony.

I couldnt properly place the product. I am very impressed with the Optimum products.

[Chris Thomas]

jdoria, on Apr 2 2009, 06:56 PM, said:

Thanks Anthony.

I couldnt properly place the product. I am very impressed with the Optimum products.

Geez, I said it was an AIO back in post #8, answer all questions in detail, and ANTHONY gets the thanks?

I'm hurt and offended. Just because I do daily drivers instead of show cars and exotics doesn't mean I'm not accurate.

Poor old integrity needs some love, I'm not feeling it guys, LOL!

[jdoria]

Integrity - dont be offended. AIO - All-In-One, but I thought people were using this like Z5pro also. Doing so is only using a small portion of what the product offers.


And thanks for the info.

[Chris Thomas]

jdoria, on Apr 3 2009, 06:38 AM, said:

Integrity - dont be offended. AIO - All-In-One, but I thought people were using this like Z5pro also. Doing so is only using a small portion of what the product offers.


And thanks for the info.

I was just playin, but seriously I love PS on glass and door jambs as another use. Also, I will use PS after polishing to remove the residue and add some protection making a two step a little faster. I was just thinking it you were going to the trouble of a three step process, then I personally would use a more specific product. I buy it by the gallon, so you know I'm putting it on something, LOL.