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  1. 2 points
    theTHiiiNG

    Optimum Opti-Bond vs CarPro PERL

    For the last 2 weeks I've been trialing a test of Optimum's Opti-Bond vs CarPro PERL. This was very subjective, and hopefully honest test. Spoiler alert - I will start out by saying both products are fantastic and are more than worthy of purchasing. I didn't get any great photos as it was too hard to tell the subtle differences between them so you will have to take my word for it. Both products are water based and can be diluted if needed/desired. Optimum Opti-Bond + Leaves a perfectly smooth high gloss finish with no greasy residue + Can be diluted further to reduce gloss (I wouldn't go past 1:1 as the consistency gets... weird) + Very good value for money (as usual with Optimum) + Although not really obvious, can be used on external (and even internal) plastic trim and rubber + Still going strong after 2 weeks in a daily driven car in a variety of weather + Does not appear blotchy or streaky if applied unevenly - The smell is hard to describe, but it's not great - Has trouble bonding to older rubber that has started to dry - The high gloss look may not be desirable for some Applied undiluted to the tyre. CarPro PERL + Produces a fantastic satin finish on everything it touches + Has some kind of darkening effect built in that makes rubber look new + Smells amazing! + Can be diluted down for use on leather and plastic if needed + Very good value for money when purchased in the 1 litre size - Produced an unsightly cheap silicone look in direct sunlight when used at full strength (on tyres at least) - If you are after a high gloss, wet look, this may not be the best choice - Durability on tyres is only average. Starting to noticabley drop off after 2 weeks - Due to the darkening effect, it can appear 'patchy' if you don't apply it evenly Applied undiluted to the tyre. Both products perform great once you get the hang of the quirks each have. For instance - PERL will leave a streaky finish if not wiped down soon after applying and Opti-Bond turns into a really weird consistency if you dilute it too much. I will say that a huge downside to PERL is when applied at full strength to tyres it has a horrible cheap silicone dressing look to it when hit by full sunlight. I took my car to a friends house to actually show it off after washing it on the weekend and this actually made me embarrassed when he saw it. I would happily choose and love using either product, but if I had to go with only one I would give the very slightest advantage to Opti-Bond. I think the name should be changed to Opti-Bond External Trim and Tire Gel as in my experience it actually outperformed PERL on external plastic. I applied it to my mothers car which had very faded external plastic trim, and upon seeing the car weeks later it was still performing well even though it sits outside 24/7. If you have any experiences with either of these products please let me know!
  2. 2 points
    A&J

    Hyper Paint Correction System (HPCS)

    I have stumbled upon this thread on Autopia.org forum that I have found very interesting to read infact so much so I have decided to post it here for anyone interested in it. The post is from Yvan Lacroix describing the Hyper paint correction system. "Optimum Polymer Technologies Hyper Paint Correction System (HPCS) is a simple system designed to give superior results in less time while using less product. It’s a complete system designed to be simple to use and efficient without creating dust, or the need to tape off plastic mouldings. Consisting of 2 machines, 1 Compound, 2 polishes and 4 pads the Hyper Paint Correction System (HPCS) gives you everything you need for correction and shine in one or 2 steps. The machines designed to work with the Hyper Paint Correction System (HPCS) The Zentool 21E is a 900W random orbital polisher with a 21mm offset stroke. Unique in the industry with an easy to grip surface, the Zentool 21E is simple to use and will get swirl free professional results with very minimal effort and time. Important to the Hyper Paint Correction System (HPCS) the Zentool 21E was designed with a backing plate to promote in pad cooling reducing heat because of the airflow possible only through Optimum Waffle pads. Able to use both 5 and 6 inch pads the Zentool 21E is a formidable correction tool. The Zentool mini is a 3 inch random orbital polisher that allows you to get into tighter areas. With it’s 12mm offset stroke it combines both polishing and correction abilities in a easy to handle and manoeuver package. The pads of the Hyper Paint Correction System (HPCS) listed in order of cut from fast cutting to fine polishing. Hyper Foam/ wool pad. Exclusive to Optimum this pad combines a short nap foamed wool face, with a soft foam interface to follow surface contours. This pad combined with Hyper Compound will quickly correct 1500G sanding marks, and provide a surface that just requires a final polishing prior to coating or wax application. Optimums Waffle pads have some specific design elements that allow them to work efficiently as an integral part of the Hyper Paint Correction System (HPCS). A unique Velcro backing allows air to flow through it for optimal pad cooling. The waffle surface allows for air to circulate between the pad and paint. The waffle surface also eliminates pressure points and excessive drag caused by flat pads, allowing for more efficient pad rotation. The Orange waffle pad combines cut with good polishing abilities. The orange pad can be used with Hyper Compound for light to moderate defect removal, with Hyper Intensive Polish for a one step polish that has good correction and high gloss. When minimal correction is required Hyper polish will finish down LSP ready while providing correction. The Black Waffle pad is for use with your choice of Hyper Intensive Polish or Hyper Polish. Used as the final step following correction with Hyper compound it will quickly refine the surface left by Hyper Compound. Using the Black Waffle pad will give high gloss and provide minimal correction. The Blue Waffle pad is to be used with Hyper Polish as a refinement step when dealing with difficult to correct paints. The Hyper Paint Correction System is based around the synergy of the Hyper trio and the complete Optimum line. The Hyper trio are characterised by their ease of use, efficiency and how user friendly they are. Non staining, no taping of mouldings is required, non-dusting when used according to instructions, and using inter compatible nano abrasives the trio save time and effort. No need to wipe off the residue between steps as the synergy of the HPCS allows you to refine the surface without risking towel marring and wasting time removing the minimal residue. Hyper Compound is a cutting compound that easily removes 1500G sanding marks, while providing an easy to refine surface. Used with either the Hyper Wool/foam pad or the Orange waffle pad Hyper Compound provides both cut and gloss, without dust or hazing. For very heavy correction the Optimum Double Sided Wool pad can be used effectively with Hyper Compound. Hyper Intensive Polish is a cutting polish, providing a gloss finish and moderate cutting abilities its primary use is as a one-step polish. Used with the Orange or Black waffle pad, cut and finish can be adjusted. Hyper Polish is used in conjunction with the waffle pads to refine the surface after compound, or to provide exceptional gloss on paints that do not require correction. The synergy of the complete Optimum line is highlighted with the HPCS, and the time saving realized by using this synergy are evident. For a full correction detail utilizing the Optimum line, and how it saves you time follow these simple steps. Wash the vehicle with Optimum No Rinse(ONR). Decontaminate the paint using an Optimum Clay Towel and the ONR on the surface from the wash as lubrication. Determine the level of correction required and start with your first correction step over the ONR dampened surface, no need to dry or tape off the vehicle. Dampen your chosen pad with ONR wash solution (preferably in a pad washer) and simply spray 1 shot of Hyper Compound on the pad, no need to prime the pad, nor use a large amount of product. Not over using the product is a very important aspect and requires some adaptation for most experienced polishers. It’s imperative that you use a damp pad, and that no more than 1 spray of Hyper Compound of polish be used per section. With the Hyper Paint Correction System do not prime your pads, an clean and dampen your pads after every section. Using the Zentool move it slowly over the surface with a tool speed only as high as needed to allow the backing plate to turn (2-3 on the speed dial). Excessive speed is counterproductive as it creates heat. Pressure should be avoided, just the weight of the tool is sufficient. Again this is different than with most polishing products, just like more product does not mean more results, the same goes with speed and pressure, more will potentially reduce cut and finish. Allow the Hyper Paint Correction System to do the work, not you. The pad should be cleaned of excessive product and paint residue after every section and kept clean and damp with an ONR filled pad cleaner. Once the correction step is complete on the whole vehicle, proceed to the polishing step, there is no need to wipe off the minimal Hyper Compound residue. Doing a test spot will determine if you require Hyper Intensive Polish or Hyper Polish to refine the surface to make it ready for Opti-Seal, Optimum Gloss Coat or Opti-Coat Pro(For Opti-Coat Pro the included Primer Polish should be used instead of Hyper Polish). The Polishing step should require minimal time and passes, as any correction should be done in the first step. Using the pad/polish combination of your choice refine the surface while keeping your pad clean and damp. As with Hyper Compound only one spray of product on the pad is needed. If your paint is very difficult to finish, using a clean blue waffle pad dampened in ONR without any polish will aid in removing the polish residue, working in small sections at low speed To prepare the surface for application of an Optimum coating, remove the polish residue using a Micro-Fibre Towel dampened with ONR to soften and remove the polish residue safely , then apply a mist of Optimum Paint Prep on the panel and dry off both the ONR and Paint Prep.. The ONR will easily remove the polish residue and the Optimum Paint Prep will leave the surface ready for the coating. The Paint Prep Solution has many advantages over IPA when preparing for a coating. It has higher lubricity, allowing the coating to flow out and self-level better , reducing high spots. Optimum Paint Prep also removes all traces of wax and polishing oils leaving the surface as pure as possible for the Opti-Seal, Gloss-Coat or Opti-Coat Pro to bond."
  3. 1 point
    Having used ONR for 10 years I knew Optimum put out solid products. For what seems like forever I dabbled with Zaino, Menzerna/Jescar, Wolfgang, Meguires etc. with various products being favorites of mine. Recently got into a conversation with a friend who's a pro detailer about some of the newer products they have. He swears by the whole Optimum line and I now see why. The Goat's paint was in great shape from the get go, the car only has 60K miles. It was rarely driven and was garage kept except for the last 3 years. In that time she has lived and continues to do so outside 24/7. So needing to find products that were durable, protected the paint, looked great and were easy to work with became a priority. So glad I decided to use all Optimum products for my detail, the results are amazing, especially since I had never used any of them before. Started with an ONR bath then a clay bar pass. Then in this order here's how I finished it: Opti-Coat Primer Polish Gloss Coat Opti-Seal Opti-Bond tire treatment Stoners Invisible glass(yeah I get it, not an Optimum product lol) My trusty Porter Cable 7424 once again came through with flying colors and removed 85% of my swirls/spiderwebbing. You all can guess the rest, I'll let a few pics do the rest of my talking. Extremely pleased how it turned out. Given the fact I had to wait a week between the OCPP and GC applications due to 7 days of rain it's even more amazing it all worked out as well as it did.
  4. 1 point
    A&J

    Opti-Clean & OCW?

    It would be interesting if someone tested and compared mixing: - 10% Opti-seal to 90% ONR at QD dilution - 10% OCW to 90% ONR at QD dilution - 10% OCW to 90% OID - 10% Opti-seal to 90% OID - 10% OCW to 90% Opti clean - 10% Opti-seal to 90% Opti clean 10% is just a reference point...it could be more or less. I volunteer for the 3 Opti seal mixes! Anyone else wanna have a go?
  5. 1 point
    Ron@Optimum

    Hello from Kentucky

    Welcome to Optimum - lots of great advice here to keep your car beautiful!
  6. 1 point
    No Soap

    Detailing Efficiency Experiments

    +1 for the pre-spray.
  7. 1 point
    funny to see Dann listed as "new to the Forum" - while not active on the OPT Forum, Dann is anything but new to Optimum. A past pro installer, Regional Manager, and current VP of Business Development, Dann is as knowledgeable as anyone could hope for and a welcome voice here!
  8. 1 point
    Dann

    How to fix a scratch on Opticoat Pro+?

    Indeed, the only way to move Opti Coat is via abrasion. Your best bet is to go to your installer and have him polish and reapply Opti Coat to the area.
  9. 1 point
    Ron@Optimum

    Opti-Coat M-Wash and Foam Cannon

    the foam cannon ratio is the same - .5 oz to 1 gallon of water. You can store the remainder but not indefinitely - depending on the water quality (distilled water is best) and bacteria introduced by equipment, the mixture can become funky (chemical term) and need to be replaced.
  10. 1 point
    I use Protectant Plus every time I wash my cars, and frequently in between - no problem with accumulation. As to Scott, I think he makes good points (if in lecture mode) and we've seen that vehicles need periodic decontamination, only wonder why he specifies Optimum/ONR, there are many rinseless products. I asked Dr G about rebuttal, but David feels Scott is connected with a competitor and refused to get into a debate.
  11. 1 point
    Thanks all. Yes, considering how many anti-Optimum videos he's done, I was surprised he mentioned using ONR again. Scott has put out some great videos, but I don't get the Optimum hatred.
  12. 1 point
    I˙ll join the party. Interiors are usually a clean place and if you clean your car with ONR every week just soak a towel with it and wipe the interior with that. Like everyone else I use one or the other. If I want a quick fix Ill grab my opti clean sprayer and spray and wipe. Both work fine...dont overthink it.
  13. 1 point
    Car Wash works well with Coated cars and shouldn't effect or interfere with normal beading behavior. M-Wash works even better and is formulated specifically for Coatings.
  14. 1 point
    Yvan

    Optimum Gloss-Coat

    Yes, wash with Optimum No Rinse(ONR), and enjoy.
  15. 1 point
    A&J

    My ONR Maintenance Procedure

    People seem to be afraid of onr like its the plague but in reality its the cure. Great writeup and a nice looking car you have there
  16. 1 point
    Yvan

    Big red sponge with the soap

    The Big Red Sponge can be used with soap, but it doesn’t work well, the Sponge gets loaded. The new Opti-Coat Big Gold Sponge works just as well with both Optimum No Rinse(ONR) and Car Wash Soap.
  17. 1 point
    Ron@Optimum

    Poli-seal on glass, plastic, and rubber

    well, Poli-Seal is a polish (as well as cleaner/sealant), so there can be white residue on trim and glass. It comes off easily with an ONR dampened micro fiber towel.
  18. 1 point
    A&J

    OCW application and streaking

    Yes exactly like that!
  19. 1 point
    Lowejackson

    Product Suggestions

    I think OPT have a plush MF towel, the Rag Company have a few such as their Eagle Edgeless and Minx towels. Have a look at their site or maybe just phone them. As for applying the sealant, I have found most towels are able to do a good job. The foam pad is probably the best way of applying the sealant. I am sure the Rag Company have suggested their Edgeless 365 in the past
  20. 1 point
    Ron@Optimum

    OCW on a newly applied Gloss Coat

    Soaking the bug guts with ONR solution and wiping gently should not remove OCP. Also, OCP should not etch, but can understand the frustration of bugs marring your beautiful car!
  21. 1 point
    Lowejackson

    ONR on polisher pad

    It won't make a significant difference if you clean the pad for the second panel with ONR. The Hyper Polish can be sprayed onto a dry pad and will work well. I think the advantage of using a pad which has been cleaned with ONR is firstly, you are starting with a very clean pad which is always a good idea. Secondly, my guess is the ONR is helping to spread the polish over the pad and maybe helps with lubrication. I have used Hyper Polish with dry and ONR dampened pads, the difference is not night and day, using ONR makes it slightly nicer to work with. One thing I have tried is to wash the pad in a bucket of ONR and then spin the pad on the polisher at the top of the bucket. Care is needed here as water and electricity can create some very unpleasant outcomes. The ONR bucket method is probably not as good as a fancy pad washer but is much cheaper.
  22. 1 point
    Lowejackson

    New user trying to formulate a plan

    ONR is the rinseless wash, that is you still use a bucket and wash in the normal way but instead of rinsing, you wipe off the excess water. Opti-clean is a waterless wash, here there is no need for a normal bucket, you simply spray Opti-Clean on the paint and wipe off with a clean cloth. You can use both products if the car gets very dirty i.e. spray Opti-Clean on the paint to help remove the dirt and then wash with ONR. Opti_Clean has better cleaning abilities and more lubrication than ONR so you get better cleaning and less risk of damaging the paint. Waterless washing is fine on most cars which do not get very dirty, if your choice is to stick with just waterless then buy lots of MF cloths and take your time
  23. 1 point
    Welcome to all things Optimum! I think you mean "Optimum Car Wax" not "Wash" in question #1? If so, yes, Optimum Car Wax can be a stand alone product. Obviously we recommend Optimum Car Wash, but there are quality alternatives. Most, but not all products can be interchanged with good results. We recommend the Optimum Synergy because we KNOW all our products are formulated to work together.
  24. 1 point
    A&J

    How do you prime the pad with Hyper-Polish?

    I start with 2 sprays on the pad, tap tap tap on the surface sized about 40 x 40 cm, speed 2 to cover the polish on the surface and that primes it. I then use speed 3-4 on my DA to polish. The problem with Hyper polish is that you have to clean the pad often...If you keep spraying the polish and dont clean it every now and then the pad gets overloaded with polish and especially lubricants and the polish doesnt cut as much. Ive just polished a car during the weekend using Intensive polish and Hyper polish and really the best result was after I cleaned the pads. The overloaded pad still cut but left some swirls behind so I had to do another 1-2 passes which is extra work. If you have a pad washer use that to clean the pad, if you dont spray on pure Power clean or mixed 3:1 and massage the polish out of the pad under running water. Put the pad on the machine, set to speed 3, put it into a bucket you are not using and turn it on, start with speed 3 then move to speed 6 and back to speed 3. The centrifugal force will remove most water leaving behind a damp pad ready for 1-2 sprays of Hyper polish or some other polish. I hope it helps!
  25. 1 point
    dnobel

    Which additional pads?

    I am about to buy my first DA polisher (probably the Griots 6) and am planning to purchase Optimum MF pads and the "Hyper Twins" to use with it. I would appreciate advice on which foam pads I should buy to complement the MFs. Based on what I have been reading, I am very interested in the Edge 2000 system but am not sure of which ones to buy or whether Edge is appropriate for a novice. Thanks in advance!