Detail Mutant

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  1. Detail Mutant

    Opti-Seal after Optimum Instant Detailer Drying Aid

    When applying to non-coated car maybe not an issue but when I did my optimization training with Yvan Opti-Seal was to be applied 1 hour after coating application (to protect during 1 week cure time) and then if you wanted to boost gloss, OID could be applied half an hour after Opti-Seal. The main purpose for OID is to enhance gloss which may be partially lost if applied first with Opti-Seal afterwards. I would consider reversing yor process with Opti-Seal as drying aid and OID applied afterwards.
  2. Detail Mutant

    Compatibility of Hyper Seal with ONRWW

    Ron I don't know if that answered my question. In my optimization training, it was stated that applying OCW (or ONRWW) first will not interfere with Opti-Seal bonding to the paint. Is this the same for Hyper-Seal? Or is it better to use plain ONR (if claying do not use OCW) to maximize the adhision of Hyper-Seal since it is a SiO2 based sealant vs a polymer based sealant.
  3. I know Optimum has stated there is no compatibility issue between OCW (or ONRWW) and Opti-Seal in that Opti-Seal is able to penetrate wax and still bond with paint. I wonder if the same is true for Hyper Seal.
  4. The best maintenance product to use on top of opti glass pro (or non pro glass coating) is Optimum Glass Clean and Protect. I would definitely stay away from putting Rain X on top of the Optimum glass coating on the windshield as it is more of wax type product that could impact clarity which is critical for the windshield. For the other windows with opti coat pro plus (ceramic coating) you could try Optimum Glass Clean and Protect but toppers for ceramic coatings may be most compatible. Opti-Seal may be best as it is also extremely good for interior of windows (note do not use Optimum Glass Clean and Protect on interior as it can cause condensation issues).
  5. Detail Mutant

    Claying car coated with Opti-Coat Pro+

    Glad to here it went well with no issues. I would let your observation washing with your Big Gold Sponge be your guide as to whether you need to clay at more frequent intervals. If it starts to grab/ feel gritty consider claying those sections again. Just make sure to use appropriate clay lube (OCW) and minimize pressure on the clay media to eliminate potential for marring.
  6. Detail Mutant

    Rinseless prep wash for Polish?

    Well it might depend on what constitutes free flowing water. In my community that means connecting up to a standard city water supply hose bib connection. I use the Worx Hydroshot ( which is a battery powered pressure washer that is able draw water from a standard 5 gal bucket using the supplied hose. I will typically fill up my 5 gal bucket (with gamma seal lid) with water from my rain barrel to perform car wash rinses. The rain water cannot be considered free flowing water as it has been harvested from my roof and it is better than city water as it is virtually mineral free(measured with water tester as 1 ppm vs 250 ppm for city water). I find 5 gal is enough to perform a complete rinse of midsize car (Toyota camry) including tires/rims. Larger trucks/SUVs I find need about 7 gal per rinse. Smaller cars use less than 5 gals. The Hydroshot is not overly powerful compared to standard pressure washers but is much more effective than standard city hose connection (75-90 psi for city vs 150-200 psi Hydroshot).
  7. Detail Mutant

    Is it possible to "overgo" Powerclean?

    Personally, I will do prewash with OPC at 1:5 dilution ratio every 2-3 months but the mileage I put on my car is substantially less than you. If you are going to do a weekly OPC prewash, I would definitely use a higher dilution ratio which might not completely remove the Opti-Seal LSP. Ideally it should be at 1:10 (or higher) dilution ratio to minimize removal of polymer based LSP like Opti-Seal. If you are typically storing your RTU OPC at 1:3 dilution ratio then add to 2 parts water with your RTU solution (1:3 plus two additional equal parts water at 0:4) would result in final dilution ratio 1:11. Experiment to see if this solution is strong enough for your typical weekly contamination and adjust if needed (either higher or lower).
  8. Detail Mutant

    Opti coat pro plus got wet

    Talk to your Opti Coat installer on what you should do. Assuming the water is relatively low hardness, then there should be no issue. During my Optimization training, Yvan indicated that you can perform ONR wash as an emergency measure after 24 hours from the coating being applied (bird droppings or other contaminants within first week) with minimal impact to the coating . If hard water used then ONR wash would be prudent before the minerals get baked into the coating but you should confirm with your Opti Coat installer on how to proceed.
  9. Detail Mutant

    Agitating Optimum Power Clean on dirty panel?

    Depends on the type of dirt / contaminants. For heavily soiled areas , it is always best to start with rinsing (ideally with a moderate amount of water pressure) to knock off most of the heavy dirt. I usually don't rinse the entire vehicle just areas where there is visible dirt build up (typically front bumper, wheel arches, lower panels and backend for vans/suvs with square backend). For general agitation of power clean before performing ONR wash, I will use a good quality microfiber towel soaked in standard ONR dilution ratio. I do not return this towel to my ONR bucket to avoid contaminating the ONR solution with PC. The ONR solution provides additional lubrication over just PC in order to minimize chance of marring. I like using the Minx (or Minx Royale) from The Rag Company as it is very soft and absorbent which makes it ideal for pulling dirt from panel in order to minimize marring. I will typically do a full rinse afterwards to remove PC residue but you could still try your method of drying with microfiber to remove remaining PC. When completing ONR wash if I notice any stubborn tar or bug guts remaining, I will pull out Jersey Bug Scrubber soaked in ONR and apply small spray of PC to surface of scrubber to attack that stubborn area. I will go over again with ONR from BRS to flush area and dry as normal.
  10. Detail Mutant

    ONR Blue vs ONR Yellow

    Opti-Coat No Rinse includes a Gloss Enhancer similar to that found in Optimum Instant Detailer which will improve the shine of any vehicle over the use of standard ONR. However I found when using a drying aid such as Opti-Coat Hyper Seal with OCNR can result in slight streaking that requires additional passes with drying media . I prefer to use standard ONR with Hyper Seal to avoid the streaking issues. I think the combination of gloss enhancer in OCNR plus drying aid is too much to apply in single step. So if not using drying aid, stick with OCNR for best results but if using drying aid stick with standard ONR for easier application.
  11. Detail Mutant

    Claying car coated with Opti-Coat Pro+

    No problem Ozzcaddy. Assuming the car isn't parked near a source of iron contamination (like railroad tracks) then I wouldn't bother with only 1000 km driven. My schedule for doing Ferrex (or other iron remover) is every 6 months which is typically 10,000 km so I doubt much iron contamination has built up parked on the street. I also follow 6 month schedule because my main vehicle colour is white which shows the iron particles as orange spots after a period of time (especially with the harsh winters here in Canada).
  12. Detail Mutant

    Claying car coated with Opti-Coat Pro+

    The Optimum product which provides the best lubrication and minimizes potential of marring while using the Ultra Clay towel is Optimum Car Wax (OCW). Simply apply ONR to panel with wash media (BGS) and apply one spray of of OCW per 4 ft x 4 ft section and place Clay towel over area sprayed and start claying section. Ensure clay towel is wet with ONR. Since your vehicle is coated, the OCW in unlikely to be able to adhere to the surface for very long but will act as the best lubricant for the claying process. However before claying, it is best to do chemical iron removal first using Ferrex which will further reduce the chance of marring. For my vehicles, I typically will apply Ferrex and use that as the clay lubricant in order to accomplish chemical and mechanical decontamination in a single step. My vehicles have Gloss Coat(2 year coating) so I am no overly concerned about slight marring not that I have seen evidence of marring using this procedure.
  13. Hi OrangeFire01, That Road Warrior Plus product looks very interesting. I have not personally used it but I am considering trying it on my cars for long summer road trips (save bug splatter cleanup and minimize rock chips). Gloss Coat (and other Optimum ceramic coatings) will generally shed most waxes and sealants at a faster pace. For example Opti-seal applied to recently installed Optimum coating is expected to last just over one week (versus 1-3 months on a un-coated car). I would a expect a similar period for Optimum Car Wax (one week). Other waxes and sealants are unknown but I would assume a similar schedule of 4-10 times reduced longevity. In theory, I would not expect the RWP plus to remove the Gloss Coat as it forms a strong bond with the paint (especially the SiC component of Gloss Coat which to my understanding actually migrates into the clear coat whereas the SiO2 component forms a layer on top). So if there is no fear in removing clear coat when removing RWP then there should be no possibility in removing Gloss Coat. However adding an additional layer of wax or sealant as a sacrificial layer should not only provide assurance for protecting Gloss Coat during RWP removal but it may also help in properly applying RWP with roller. Gloss Coat is very hydrophobic and may impeded your ability to apply RWP as a an even coat. I would think applying a wax to hide Gloss Coat's properties temporarily would aid in application of RWP. The only potential negative is Gloss Coat's shedding of the wax may cause RWP to fall away before you want to remove it. Hope this helps. If you are interested in permanent PPF, Optimum has released a sprayable PPF through certified installers as it requires proper paint booth for application. Considering the crazy shape of the front end of your car, it is something to consider. Because it is so new (and cost of setting up facility), I don't know if there are many certified installers yet.
  14. Detail Mutant

    Using Onr as clay lube

    If you are going to use an IPA wipe down, I would keep concentration between 10-20 %. Any higher concentration risks causing the paint to swell which can be a huge issue when trying to do paint correction afterwards. For applying sealant/wax, not sure on negative impact but I suspect it minimize the ability of the wax/sealant to adhere to the painted surface. Optimum's Paint Prep (IPA for coatings) uses an IPA concentration in the range of 10-12%. Now if you are using an Optimum sealant or wax (Opti-Seal or Spray Wax), there is no need for an IPA wipedown. In fact it can be sprayed on while still wet from ONR clay solution and then dried and spread with microfiber towels. More efficient method if using synthetic clay material (towel or mitt), you dampen the media with ONR then spray Optimum Spray Wax directly on surface and use the spray wax as the primary clay lube. This allows you to clay and wax in effectively one step.
  15. If using Opti Coat No Rinse (yellow ONR) then 4 cap fulls to 5 gallons is extremely light. The caps for the Opti-Coat line only hold 1/3 oz so Justin was only putting in 1.33 oz of ONR to 5 gallons of water (less than half the recommended 1:256 dilution ratio, or 2.5 oz to 5 gallons). As Ron indicated, you should only have to double ONR in extremely hard water cases (> 500 ppm). In my area, we have fairly hard water (275 ppm) and I increase dilution ratio to 200:1 (increase qty of ONR by 25-33% )from the normal 256:1. Best method is to perform wash, drying aid and dry process panel by panel to avoid water (or more likely polymer) spots. Start on highest panel (ie roof) and work your way down and around vehicle to avoid dripping ONR solution on lower panels you have already completed.