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  1. Hi OrangeFire01, That Road Warrior Plus product looks very interesting. I have not personally used it but I am considering trying it on my cars for long summer road trips (save bug splatter cleanup and minimize rock chips). Gloss Coat (and other Optimum ceramic coatings) will generally shed most waxes and sealants at a faster pace. For example Opti-seal applied to recently installed Optimum coating is expected to last just over one week (versus 1-3 months on a un-coated car). I would a expect a similar period for Optimum Car Wax (one week). Other waxes and sealants are unknown but I would assume a similar schedule of 4-10 times reduced longevity. In theory, I would not expect the RWP plus to remove the Gloss Coat as it forms a strong bond with the paint (especially the SiC component of Gloss Coat which to my understanding actually migrates into the clear coat whereas the SiO2 component forms a layer on top). So if there is no fear in removing clear coat when removing RWP then there should be no possibility in removing Gloss Coat. However adding an additional layer of wax or sealant as a sacrificial layer should not only provide assurance for protecting Gloss Coat during RWP removal but it may also help in properly applying RWP with roller. Gloss Coat is very hydrophobic and may impeded your ability to apply RWP as a an even coat. I would think applying a wax to hide Gloss Coat's properties temporarily would aid in application of RWP. The only potential negative is Gloss Coat's shedding of the wax may cause RWP to fall away before you want to remove it. Hope this helps. If you are interested in permanent PPF, Optimum has released a sprayable PPF through certified installers as it requires proper paint booth for application. Considering the crazy shape of the front end of your car, it is something to consider. Because it is so new (and cost of setting up facility), I don't know if there are many certified installers yet.
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    Using Onr as clay lube

    If you are going to use an IPA wipe down, I would keep concentration between 10-20 %. Any higher concentration risks causing the paint to swell which can be a huge issue when trying to do paint correction afterwards. For applying sealant/wax, not sure on negative impact but I suspect it minimize the ability of the wax/sealant to adhere to the painted surface. Optimum's Paint Prep (IPA for coatings) uses an IPA concentration in the range of 10-12%. Now if you are using an Optimum sealant or wax (Opti-Seal or Spray Wax), there is no need for an IPA wipedown. In fact it can be sprayed on while still wet from ONR clay solution and then dried and spread with microfiber towels. More efficient method if using synthetic clay material (towel or mitt), you dampen the media with ONR then spray Optimum Spray Wax directly on surface and use the spray wax as the primary clay lube. This allows you to clay and wax in effectively one step.
  3. If using Opti Coat No Rinse (yellow ONR) then 4 cap fulls to 5 gallons is extremely light. The caps for the Opti-Coat line only hold 1/3 oz so Justin was only putting in 1.33 oz of ONR to 5 gallons of water (less than half the recommended 1:256 dilution ratio, or 2.5 oz to 5 gallons). As Ron indicated, you should only have to double ONR in extremely hard water cases (> 500 ppm). In my area, we have fairly hard water (275 ppm) and I increase dilution ratio to 200:1 (increase qty of ONR by 25-33% )from the normal 256:1. Best method is to perform wash, drying aid and dry process panel by panel to avoid water (or more likely polymer) spots. Start on highest panel (ie roof) and work your way down and around vehicle to avoid dripping ONR solution on lower panels you have already completed.
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    ONR to remove power clean (not rinsing)

    Darrvao777 As Ron stated, 10:1 ratio may not be strong enough unless you are cleaning your rims and tires very frequently (ie weekly or less). As long as you are drying the rims afterward (to avoid polymer spots from ONR), it should work at 10:1 ratio. If your drying method is using a microfiber towel (instead of forced air), then higher ratio may be successful as well since a significant amount of the PC residue will be absorbed into the drying towel.
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    ONR to remove power clean (not rinsing)

    I think it depends on the dilution ratio of OPC being used. At a 5:1 dilution ratio, I think wiping with a dripping wet (not just dampened) ONR microfiber towel is probably OK without leaving much residue or potential quick spray with pump sprayer with ONR solution then washing as per normal would be better. At higher OPC dilution ratios, I would definitely recommend flushing with a decent amount of water. When I have used OPC at a 3:1 dilution ratio on my rims and tires, I have to typically flush the area for a good minute or two using my Worx Hydroshot (battery powered pressure washer that puts out only nominal 0.5 gpm and 320 PSI) before I stop seeing white suds from the OPC. When I do a decon wash with OPC at 5:1 on the paint, I will initially wipe away with ONR dampened towel but always follow up a quick rinse of water to ensure no residue is left.
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    Just got my car coated

    Congrats on new coating. Stick with ONR washes or if you must go to automated car wash, only go to touchless car wash to avoid potential marring. When doing your own ONR wash make sure you use a high quality microfiber towel for drying (min. 20% polyamide but ideally 30% polyamide) to minimize chance of marring. Doing ONR wash over winter with heavy salt accumulation, it is best to pre-treat panel with ONR solution sprayed on with pump sprayer and rinse off before proceeding with standard ONR wash . Annually (or spring of each year), you may want to perform a decon wash similar to process described in video. For my vehicle, I haven't done the MDR step but will typically do Power Clean (5:1 dilution ratio) and Ferrex agitated with ONR soaked Ultimate Clay Towel every spring.
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    Getting Opti-Coat

    In short yes, you have to be an authorized Opti-Coat installer which to my understanding requires you to attend an Optimum training session and carry minimum amount of liability insurance for the business (maybe another expert can confirm as the requirements can vary by region). Most Opti-Coat products (other than the relatively new maintenance line) carry a registered warranty covered by third party insurance . For the warranty to be valid, has to be done by authorized installer who knows what they are doing. Currently Optimum does not have consumer equivalent interior coatings but for the glass they have Opti Glass Coating which is rated to last 2 years on the windshield but in theory will probably last up to 5 years (equivalent of pro version ) if you regularly top it monthly with Optimum Glass Clean and Protect.
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    Tractor Detail

    Using it undiluted or possibly diluted 1:1 should be able to handle heavily greased areas. Other areas than are just heavy dirt, use a 3:1 (up to 5:1 depending on dirt level) dilution ratio. Other degreasers may be slightly better undiluted on grease surfaces (such as Super Clean) but they are highly corrosive (find it burns my skin) as compared to PC. Generally PC is much safer for people using it and the painted surfaces applied to than traditional degreasers.
  9. Detail Mutant

    Need a finer spray nozzle

    Generally when using a waterless wash on a soiled vehicle you want the solution to be applied fairly thick (dripping wet) to minimize the chance of marring the paint. If you want an extremely fine mist sprayer, this is the one I use for Opti-Coat Hyper Seal, I find an extremely fine mist sprayer is most appropriate for protection products (sealants and waxes) where in the case of Optimum products less is more.
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    Instant detailer

    I typically apply one full spray OID per panel (4-6 sq. ft surface area) but usually reserve for use on a dry car to boost gloss. I find Hyper Seal is a better drying aid on a ceramic coated car than OID as it adds additional protection (SiO2 based spray sealant). When using ONR to wash, you don't typically need a drying aid for the added lubrication.
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    New Optimum Ultra Clay Towel Question

    "Clay lubricant" in theory can be any liquid that provides some form of lubricity between the clay media and the surface you are rubbing against. The standard Optimum clay lubricant is ONR at a dilution ratio 64:1. In other cases you can use a spray wax (like Optimum Spray Wax) or even a detail spray if you would rather depending on needs. I have in the past even used Ferrex as clay lubricant with the Ultimate Clay towel soaked with 256:1 ONR solution. The Optimum Ultra Clay Towel ( or any synthetic clay surface) is shipped with a protective coating which needs to be removed before applying to paint otherwise there is higher risk of marring the paint. For initially removing this coating, ONR at 256:1 against windows should be acceptable clay lube as there should no risks of marring the hard glass surface. But depending on application against a painted surface, it is generally safer to use the higher 64:1 ONR dilution ratio.
  12. Dasler, You may want to consider a pre-wash or strip wash step to your process to ensure you have removed any previous wax/sealant. Depending on type and age of previous wax/sealant, the iron remover and clay process may not be enough to remove some of these newer sealants which require a fairly heavy APC (non pH neutral) to remove. If previous protectant is not fully removed, it can interfere with applying a different sealant. Optimum Power Clean diluted at 1:3 applied to paint and agitated with ONR dampened microfiber towel as a pre-wash does an excellent job of removing most sealants. If you do this as your first step, then you can apply Ferrex (Optimum Iron Remover) and agitate with ONR dampened Ultimate Clay Towel (Optimum synthetic clay media) which combines iron removal and clay in single step. Follow this up with rinse and standard wash process before applying sealant. Note if the vehicle is heavily contaminated (been several years since last clay application) then it best to separate steps and use proper clay bar as synthetic clay media is most appropriate for light to moderate contamination.
  13. Detail Mutant

    Paint Correction Help Needed

    Generally the foam pad should just be slightly damp before applying hyper polish/compound (ie prime in pad washer a few times then spin dry at speed 6 or highest speed). For 5 and 6 inch pads generally one full pull of Hyper Polish is used (for 8 inch wool I use 1 and half sprays and 3 inch pads half spray). It is important to thoroughly shake Hyper Polish (and other sprayable compounds) to ensure the abrasives in the liquid are well mixed to ensure consistent cut. During Optimization training, Yvan recommended to add some stainless steel nuts to the bottle of Hyper Polish (and other sprayable compounds) which aids in mixing up the contents of the spray bottle when you shake it.
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    Onr dilution rate with ro water

    Clasman, Standard recommended wash solution dilution ratio is 256:1 which you are effectively at (58.6 ml to 15 L to be precise). Since you are using Reverse Osmosis water there should be no contaminants and I would stick with this dilution ratio . In my case, I live in a region with moderately hard water (260 ppm), so I will typically use a slightly higher dilution ratio (around 225:1) to compensate for the ONR attacking the minerals within the water. For your pre-spray solution, you may want to consider a higher dilution ratio depending on how you use it (apply and rinse with clean water before using BRS) and level of dirt/contaminants on the vehicle. In the past, I have used as high as 64:1 dilution ratio especially in winter when there is excessive salt build up on the panels. But if the current 256:1 dilution ratio works for your conditions, I would stick with it.
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    ONR Wash and Wax with Opti-Seal

    Kiddetailer, My understanding is Turtle Wax Ice and Meguiars D156 Synthetic Wax are both synthetic waxes (no natural carnauba wax but effectively a polymer sealant like Opti-Seal). Since Optimum doesn't test other companies products, there is no guarantee that these products can migrate through the Optimum Spray Wax like Opti-Seal. If you prefer to use these products, it might be best to reverse your process by applying synthetic wax as drying aid during ONR wash and follow up with Optimum Car Wax afterwards. The only time to reverse the process is when you are in fact using a clay towel (or intend to use Opti-Seal which is confirmed to migrate through). This is because Optimum Spray Wax provides the best lubricity in order to minimize the risk of marring using the clay media (abrasive) as demonstrated by Yvan. If you intend to perform some form of paint correction after claying then Optimum Car Wax should not be necessary. When layering natural carnauba wax, the recommended cure time between coats is 1-24 hours which will depend on environment and method of application as it requires time to dry as a hard layer before second layer is applied. Because Optimum Car Wax comes in spray form, I assume cure time in most cases would be 1 hour or less. Polymer sealants are different as they attempt to form a chemical bond with the paint and should be applied directly on bare paint wherever possible for maximum durability otherwise as you shed the shorter life carnauba wax, you will also loose the polymer sealant.