Detail Mutant

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  1. Detail Mutant

    ONR to remove power clean (not rinsing)

    Darrvao777 As Ron stated, 10:1 ratio may not be strong enough unless you are cleaning your rims and tires very frequently (ie weekly or less). As long as you are drying the rims afterward (to avoid polymer spots from ONR), it should work at 10:1 ratio. If your drying method is using a microfiber towel (instead of forced air), then higher ratio may be successful as well since a significant amount of the PC residue will be absorbed into the drying towel.
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    ONR to remove power clean (not rinsing)

    I think it depends on the dilution ratio of OPC being used. At a 5:1 dilution ratio, I think wiping with a dripping wet (not just dampened) ONR microfiber towel is probably OK without leaving much residue or potential quick spray with pump sprayer with ONR solution then washing as per normal would be better. At higher OPC dilution ratios, I would definitely recommend flushing with a decent amount of water. When I have used OPC at a 3:1 dilution ratio on my rims and tires, I have to typically flush the area for a good minute or two using my Worx Hydroshot (battery powered pressure washer that puts out only nominal 0.5 gpm and 320 PSI) before I stop seeing white suds from the OPC. When I do a decon wash with OPC at 5:1 on the paint, I will initially wipe away with ONR dampened towel but always follow up a quick rinse of water to ensure no residue is left.
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    Just got my car coated

    Congrats on new coating. Stick with ONR washes or if you must go to automated car wash, only go to touchless car wash to avoid potential marring. When doing your own ONR wash make sure you use a high quality microfiber towel for drying (min. 20% polyamide but ideally 30% polyamide) to minimize chance of marring. Doing ONR wash over winter with heavy salt accumulation, it is best to pre-treat panel with ONR solution sprayed on with pump sprayer and rinse off before proceeding with standard ONR wash . Annually (or spring of each year), you may want to perform a decon wash similar to process described in video. For my vehicle, I haven't done the MDR step but will typically do Power Clean (5:1 dilution ratio) and Ferrex agitated with ONR soaked Ultimate Clay Towel every spring.
  4. Detail Mutant

    Getting Opti-Coat

    In short yes, you have to be an authorized Opti-Coat installer which to my understanding requires you to attend an Optimum training session and carry minimum amount of liability insurance for the business (maybe another expert can confirm as the requirements can vary by region). Most Opti-Coat products (other than the relatively new maintenance line) carry a registered warranty covered by third party insurance . For the warranty to be valid, has to be done by authorized installer who knows what they are doing. Currently Optimum does not have consumer equivalent interior coatings but for the glass they have Opti Glass Coating which is rated to last 2 years on the windshield but in theory will probably last up to 5 years (equivalent of pro version ) if you regularly top it monthly with Optimum Glass Clean and Protect.
  5. Detail Mutant

    Tractor Detail

    Using it undiluted or possibly diluted 1:1 should be able to handle heavily greased areas. Other areas than are just heavy dirt, use a 3:1 (up to 5:1 depending on dirt level) dilution ratio. Other degreasers may be slightly better undiluted on grease surfaces (such as Super Clean) but they are highly corrosive (find it burns my skin) as compared to PC. Generally PC is much safer for people using it and the painted surfaces applied to than traditional degreasers.
  6. Detail Mutant

    Need a finer spray nozzle

    Generally when using a waterless wash on a soiled vehicle you want the solution to be applied fairly thick (dripping wet) to minimize the chance of marring the paint. If you want an extremely fine mist sprayer, this is the one I use for Opti-Coat Hyper Seal, https://www.amazon.com/Beautify-Beauties-Flairosol-Empty-Bottle/dp/B07N7RLM7V/ref=sr_1_8?crid=2OA4RM0G0463R&keywords=spray%2Bbottle&qid=1566695617&s=gateway&sprefix=sp%2Caps%2C175&sr=8-8&th=1 I find an extremely fine mist sprayer is most appropriate for protection products (sealants and waxes) where in the case of Optimum products less is more.
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    Instant detailer

    I typically apply one full spray OID per panel (4-6 sq. ft surface area) but usually reserve for use on a dry car to boost gloss. I find Hyper Seal is a better drying aid on a ceramic coated car than OID as it adds additional protection (SiO2 based spray sealant). When using ONR to wash, you don't typically need a drying aid for the added lubrication.
  8. Detail Mutant

    New Optimum Ultra Clay Towel Question

    "Clay lubricant" in theory can be any liquid that provides some form of lubricity between the clay media and the surface you are rubbing against. The standard Optimum clay lubricant is ONR at a dilution ratio 64:1. In other cases you can use a spray wax (like Optimum Spray Wax) or even a detail spray if you would rather depending on needs. I have in the past even used Ferrex as clay lubricant with the Ultimate Clay towel soaked with 256:1 ONR solution. The Optimum Ultra Clay Towel ( or any synthetic clay surface) is shipped with a protective coating which needs to be removed before applying to paint otherwise there is higher risk of marring the paint. For initially removing this coating, ONR at 256:1 against windows should be acceptable clay lube as there should no risks of marring the hard glass surface. But depending on application against a painted surface, it is generally safer to use the higher 64:1 ONR dilution ratio.
  9. Dasler, You may want to consider a pre-wash or strip wash step to your process to ensure you have removed any previous wax/sealant. Depending on type and age of previous wax/sealant, the iron remover and clay process may not be enough to remove some of these newer sealants which require a fairly heavy APC (non pH neutral) to remove. If previous protectant is not fully removed, it can interfere with applying a different sealant. Optimum Power Clean diluted at 1:3 applied to paint and agitated with ONR dampened microfiber towel as a pre-wash does an excellent job of removing most sealants. If you do this as your first step, then you can apply Ferrex (Optimum Iron Remover) and agitate with ONR dampened Ultimate Clay Towel (Optimum synthetic clay media) which combines iron removal and clay in single step. Follow this up with rinse and standard wash process before applying sealant. Note if the vehicle is heavily contaminated (been several years since last clay application) then it best to separate steps and use proper clay bar as synthetic clay media is most appropriate for light to moderate contamination.
  10. Detail Mutant

    Paint Correction Help Needed

    Generally the foam pad should just be slightly damp before applying hyper polish/compound (ie prime in pad washer a few times then spin dry at speed 6 or highest speed). For 5 and 6 inch pads generally one full pull of Hyper Polish is used (for 8 inch wool I use 1 and half sprays and 3 inch pads half spray). It is important to thoroughly shake Hyper Polish (and other sprayable compounds) to ensure the abrasives in the liquid are well mixed to ensure consistent cut. During Optimization training, Yvan recommended to add some stainless steel nuts to the bottle of Hyper Polish (and other sprayable compounds) which aids in mixing up the contents of the spray bottle when you shake it.
  11. Detail Mutant

    Onr dilution rate with ro water

    Clasman, Standard recommended wash solution dilution ratio is 256:1 which you are effectively at (58.6 ml to 15 L to be precise). Since you are using Reverse Osmosis water there should be no contaminants and I would stick with this dilution ratio . In my case, I live in a region with moderately hard water (260 ppm), so I will typically use a slightly higher dilution ratio (around 225:1) to compensate for the ONR attacking the minerals within the water. For your pre-spray solution, you may want to consider a higher dilution ratio depending on how you use it (apply and rinse with clean water before using BRS) and level of dirt/contaminants on the vehicle. In the past, I have used as high as 64:1 dilution ratio especially in winter when there is excessive salt build up on the panels. But if the current 256:1 dilution ratio works for your conditions, I would stick with it.
  12. Detail Mutant

    ONR Wash and Wax with Opti-Seal

    Kiddetailer, My understanding is Turtle Wax Ice and Meguiars D156 Synthetic Wax are both synthetic waxes (no natural carnauba wax but effectively a polymer sealant like Opti-Seal). Since Optimum doesn't test other companies products, there is no guarantee that these products can migrate through the Optimum Spray Wax like Opti-Seal. If you prefer to use these products, it might be best to reverse your process by applying synthetic wax as drying aid during ONR wash and follow up with Optimum Car Wax afterwards. The only time to reverse the process is when you are in fact using a clay towel (or intend to use Opti-Seal which is confirmed to migrate through). This is because Optimum Spray Wax provides the best lubricity in order to minimize the risk of marring using the clay media (abrasive) as demonstrated by Yvan. If you intend to perform some form of paint correction after claying then Optimum Car Wax should not be necessary. When layering natural carnauba wax, the recommended cure time between coats is 1-24 hours which will depend on environment and method of application as it requires time to dry as a hard layer before second layer is applied. Because Optimum Car Wax comes in spray form, I assume cure time in most cases would be 1 hour or less. Polymer sealants are different as they attempt to form a chemical bond with the paint and should be applied directly on bare paint wherever possible for maximum durability otherwise as you shed the shorter life carnauba wax, you will also loose the polymer sealant.
  13. Detail Mutant

    Optiseal after Optigloss

    Scott, Optiseal on coated paint I find is best used as a drying aid (spray when panel is wet and wipe off) as it provides added slickness when using a drying towel to prevent marring. But Hyperseal can accomplish the same thing with added topper protection that will last longer. As Ron indicated, Opti-Coat products can only be purchased from opticoat.com or from your local Opti-Coat authorized installer. Optiseal I find is best used on the interior (especially interior windows). Optimum Spray Wax will work over Gloss Coat and is the recommended lubricant for the Ultimate clay towel over Optimum coated vehicles. But again the longevity of the topper is significantly reduced on coated paint vs bare paint. OSW will also change the hydrophobic properties while it is present on the coating (more beading and less sheeting) potentially reducing the self cleaning properties. But the OSW will generally provide more "depth" to the observed reflection in the paint. Besides Hyperseal, the one other Optimum product that I find adds a lot to a coated car is Optimum Instant Detailer (OID). The gloss enhancers in OID really increase the shine of the coating. You don't really need Optiseal or OSW for additional protection with coating so best to go with OID that makes the paint pop if you can't easily get some Hyperseal. I know some people complain about the cost of Hyperseal but on a volume basis it is in fact cheaper than optiseal at regular price ( it is generally 50-75% more expensive but you are getting twice the volume, 16 oz vs 8 oz). Just don't expect any discounts on listed price for Opti-Coat products unlike other Optimum products due to the limited distribution. Another product to consider as a topper is P&S Beadmaker. It adds lots of slickness and increases gloss significantly after the full 4 hour cure window. Just note that it's impact to hydrophobic properties will be similar to OSW (intense beading and less sheeting). And a lot more product is required to be applied (4 to 8 oz for full initial application).
  14. Detail Mutant

    Optiseal after Optigloss

    The best time to apply Optiseal after any Optimum coating (Gloss Coat or any professional Opti-Coat coating) is 1 hour after application. It provides addition protection for the coating during the full chemical resistant 7 day cure period (bird droppings, hard water, etc). During the cure period, the coating will shed the Optiseal and my understanding is Optiseal will be shed fairly quickly on any Optimum coating. A better product to use for maintenance after the 7 day cure window (do not use in first 7 days as it can impact cure of coating) is Opti-Coat Hyper seal. It is an SiO2 based spray sealant that will help maintain SiO2 component in the hybrid Gloss Coat (both SiO2 and SiC).
  15. Detail Mutant

    Optimum Gloss-Coat

    If you are happy with water beading/sheeting then probably just continue with your normal maintenance washes. You may want to consider doing an annual decontamination wash as shown in the following youtube video to improve the coatings hydrophobic properties (Power Clean, Ferrex with Ultimate Clay Towel and MDR application before normal wash). Opti-Coat, Ceramic Coating, 9 Years Later?? Using Opti-Coat Hyper-Seal as a topper/drying aid will also help extend the life of the coating.