maan Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Hi guys, I know the importance of optimum synergie specially when applying optcoat pro plus , but sometimes if you are overseas some optimum products may not be imidiatly accesable to you due to some logistics issues so would like to know a couple of alternative solutions if i am out of some certain products. 1- can opticlean replace paint prep 2- what about ONR with a more concentrated dilution ratio 3- if using other compounds and plolihes would a wash before the wipe down help. Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Soap Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 1. Definitely no. 2. Definitely no. 3. Depends what you are washing with, everything has to be removed? If I understood your question correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A&J Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 you could use 15-30% ipa mix. You could get IPA everywhere and also distilled water. you could also use a non abrasive paint cleanser from other manufacturers to remove polishing oils. But stick to the first option...its cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Optimum created Paint Prep to replace IPA in coating installations. IPA works but is less effective for this purpose than Paint Prep, FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maan Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 Thx for the replies what about (3) a wash before the wipe down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A&J Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Depends on what you are using. Pre wash with apc (power clean) and a wash with car wash should remove most polishing oils. Lots of people did APC washes after polishing back in the day when there were no wipe down products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowejackson Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 As A&J suggests, it depend on what polish etc you are using. Not a big problem using OPT polishes but with other brands something like Power Clean should do the trick. IPA is always an option and is cheap but does not have good lubrication, alternative could be some bodyshop panel wipe. Or just take some primer or hyper polish or some paint prep with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maan Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 Thx for all the replies and sorry to drag the subject a little bit more but i like to give you the whole picture and what i am thinking so please comment. I have rented a new small workshop in a prime area, very good location very clean and well sealed but my problem is i have water restriction and cannot wash inside or in front of the shop, plus i am out of paint prep for at least two month, time for my shipment to arrive (i am overseas). The closest washing station is 4 miles away, so for application of opticoat pro plus i figure the process to be the following, 1- take the car to the washing station for a full wash 2- once i bring the car back to the shop do a quick ONR rinsless wash to make sure nothing in on the paint from the drive from the washing station. 3- do paint correction with OPT products ( compound and polish) 4- do a second ONR wash 5- do a wipe down with a 25% IPA solution. 6- start the coating Pls give me ur opinion or any adjustment u think i should do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowejackson Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 ONR should be enough if using OPT polishes, IPA may be too much. I guess by not using a primer (does this come with the Pro Plus kit?) or the Paint Prep what you are loosing is the catalyst. I am not familiar enough with OPT coatings to say if this is significant or not. Out of interest, what part of the world are you in. For me America is overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maan Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 i am american but i live in beirut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowejackson Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 It is amazing how much the world has changed in the last 20-30 years. Good luck with the new premises, hope it is very successful for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 It is indeed a small world! If using Optimum compounds/polishes, an ONR wash is all that's necessary before Coating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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