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Hey there,

The following could be totally untrue; I vaguely remember a reputable source once stated that MDR could be added to the ONR wash solution, to aid in very light water spot removal. 

Is this true?

I just re-watched a video from Forensic Detailing Channel where ONR in itself was unsuccesfull in doing so.

Also, why is this? Why aren't these minerals water-soluable anymore and stay bonded to the paint.

Thanks in advance.

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Good question  I would like to see answer  my self 

I think it would be better with the soap and then remove all with water then onr?

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I doubt that is true solely because you would dilute MDR way too much for it to be effective.

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Makes sense thanks 

I put a little warm water with it to do my windshield  to make it a little more easer to spread  worked great 

 

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I think Yvan once showed to leave ONR on the surface before you hit it with MDR. That will make it spread easier.

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I've never seen any mention of adding MDR to ONR, nor has Optimum tested that combo.  As to why ONR is not better removing water spots, it's an encapsulator/remover  not a dissolver.  The minerals in water spots need to be dissolved for mar free removal.

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Some detailers has misunderstood ONR and waterspots. It was all about ONR-spots and how easy they could be removed by reintroducing ONR-solution on them, not at all about regular waterspots.

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The truth to mdr is that there are many other options to removing water spots. MDR is not very good at it. I am saying this from an experience standpoint. Wheel acid 2:1 or 1:1 will remove spots perfectly. If you mix 4oz of MDR with 1/2 oz of onr to a gallon of water you will get a great road salt remover product. Salt stick to a coated and non coated paint and this mixture does a fantastic job at removing it. 

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I never realy get water spots maybe because  my car is gloss coated with  a couple  of coats of opti seal and  don't realy no how many coats of onr with wax  and spray wax  any  water just falls of the car  

But I like the idea of removing salt in the winter  i believe  that we are supposed to  put onr on the car and then mdr on top and agitate  what's the difference  if you mix it 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Habs said:

I never realy get water spots maybe because  my car is gloss coated with  a couple  of coats of opti seal and  don't realy no how many coats of onr with wax  and spray wax  any  water just falls of the car  

But I like the idea of removing salt in the winter  i believe  that we are supposed to  put onr on the car and then mdr on top and agitate  what's the difference  if you mix it 

 

 

There would be a lot less ONR on the surface of the car, as in the bucket. Meaning it would be diluted less.

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